the city council, because of exposing this, the city council passed a law that took away that requirement, the five-hour class. there are still 11 steps to gun ownership, down from 17 when i get it. guest: who is charles sikes, and what is his role in the gun buying process? host: he is the one legal gun dealer in washington d.c.. he has a unique role, transferring guns. it has to be transferred to a dealer in the state, same rules apply. if you buy a new one, you have to go through him. he got zoned out of his office and had no place to go. the city residents had no way to get legal handguns. the deal that was made was that he could work out of his dmv, a gun dealer in the dmv. i went three or four times. i had to get a ballistics test from his office. he is the man that you call if you want to get a gun in d.c. host: why a sig? what is a sig? guest: sig-sauer is a brand like colt or remington. it is harder in washington because there are no ranges. people spend a lot of time trying different guns at the shooting range behind me. that is the way you can get a test for how it feels. i did